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Apr 21, 2009, 11:18pm   #1
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I have seen many beautiful exotic pieces here in the BV forum. But, I can't really tell the difference between Lizard and Karung. Is it possible that they are the same? Is Karung a type of lizard?
Apr 21, 2009, 11:25pm   #2
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I think I just answered my own question. This is taken from a 2006 Bottega Veneta webpage:
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Apr 21, 2009, 11:28pm   #3
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baggiana is our expert on exotics. i love karung - it is amazing IRL.... and i don't normally like exotics, but BV does amazing things with python and karung
Apr 22, 2009, 4:58am   #4
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as far as I know, karung is a watersnake
Apr 22, 2009, 6:51am   #5
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Originally Posted by Mohnblume
as far as I know, karung is a watersnake
Yes, that's correct. It has much smaller scales than python or other snakeskin, almost lizard-like from afar. I have it in a bronze (Brass) Knot clutch. Here are some pics I posted before. http://forum.purseblog.com/bottega-v...-189705-2.html

Apologies for the huge pics.



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Apr 22, 2009, 10:00am   #6
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Karung is water snake, and though the patterning looks similar to lizard to the untrained eye, the feel is very different. Snakeskin is "drapier" - more pliable- and has directionality or nap, since if you stoke it in one direction you are smoothing down the scales, and in the opposite direction you are lifting the scales. Lizard would feel smooth regardless of the direction in which you rub it. BV's hides are as pliable as I have ever felt, so that even croc or lizard are not the usual stiff skin that one expects for the reptile exotics. Karung (and all snake, I believe) is less expensive than reptile, but I love the skins for their absolute beauty - and they are not as sensitive to moisture and cracking as are the reptile. I find the two different, but one could substitued karung to get a lizard-like appearance... and because the scales are small, the lifting is not noticable like it is for python, and not as plastic appearing as anaconda. Karung is a beautiful, beautiful skin in its own right, IMO!
Apr 22, 2009, 12:55pm   #7
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Hmmm. So does BV offer Lizard and Karung?
Apr 22, 2009, 12:57pm   #8
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This may help. too: http://forum.purseblog.com/bottega-v...vs-412078.html
Apr 22, 2009, 1:11pm   #9
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Ooooh. Thanks Jburgh!

Does BV offer Lizard or just Karung?

I misread the Bottega website. The flip flops are made of Karung, with a "Lizard motif", meaning on the insole. Very confusing!
Apr 22, 2009, 1:29pm   #10
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BV uses both lizard and karung, as well as croc... just depends upon the item, and of course, you can try a Special Order as I did - and other have.
Apr 22, 2009, 2:50pm   #11
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this is pretty beautiful - pitone
Apr 23, 2009, 11:43pm   #12
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doloresmia, that is GORGEOUS!

Does anyone have any pics of items in lizard?
Apr 24, 2009, 1:20am   #13
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castorny, did you see porshe girl's iron and brass lizard cabat and wallet


and this one from bv.luxury - the peltro ottone karung
Apr 24, 2009, 7:46am   #14
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I think it is so hard to really tell the difference between lizard and karung. In fact when I was in BV recently, I was asking about a wallet that I was sure was Karung, and the SA told me it was lizard. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I am very detail oriented. Porsche girl's Cabat and the one from bv.luxury look like exactly the same reptile.
Apr 24, 2009, 10:10am   #15
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Lizard and karung are different in texture. If you look closely to the skins (depending on the size of the skin), lizard's pattern is less uniform scales (has smaller and larger scales, hard to describe -similar to croc), karung is more uniform in pattern (little scales). They are similar but not totally alike. Also, the feel of lizard is smoother than karung. But I would think Karung is sturdier.

BV uses karung (water snake skin), pitone (python skin), and lizard skin.
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